Capitalism 2 and Capitalism Lab Forum

To be able for the player and AI to have different 'CANINV_YR. This would allow the player as an example to 'invent' a product before the AI giving the player a head start in the market place.

A new column would need to added and the current one changed, EXAMPLE

CANINV_YR becomes CANINV_YR_PL

and the new column could be CANINV_YR_AI

...and the coding would need to be changed/added



...it could also be the other way around.....the AI could invent before the player



Thoughts?

Thanks

players dont need headstart, if someone needs it , then the AI as its still damn easy to wipe them of the screen unless they are banks and do a good job, then its a hard undertaking to break them

As an example CANINV_YR=1990. Start in 1990 and by JAN 15 AI has invented that item, giving the player no chance of being first in the market.

Next question, is what advantage is there for being first to invent a product? If none currently, should there be, or does it not really matter?

alpha117 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:16 pm As an example CANINV_YR=1990. Start in 1990 and by JAN 15 AI has invented that item, giving the player no chance of being first in the market.

Next question, is what advantage is there for being first to invent a product? If none currently, should there be, or does it not really matter?

i never had that, seems you set the inv year too short, even the AI got to deal with invention years i.e. 9 years thats 1 year for a full R&D Facility with 9 units, if fully trained up and bonus due knowledge you can squeeze that to about 3 -4 month

i.e. if a subsidary wit 100 product knowledge and 60+ R&D bonus goes for invention of a product that takes 10 years in a facility with staff at lvl 70+ its about 1 year... the AI needs the same time, just got to mention that i run usually 200% tech cost in script else it be 5-6 month

i got no problems with AI inventing something before me, theres just too many products to be ahead everywhere especially when you have 60+ competitors with a portfolio of 30 billion+ on company cash, not a chance you can be ahead. to be ahead you need for 30 product classes, 15 companies with ceo and cto each covering 1 product class knowledge and minimum 60 R&D facilities and even then AI will have products invented before you as with 1-2 R&D facility per product class you not gonna hit the same invention then the AI.

on the other hand its ok for the AI to have a headstart on products, once you invented the product before AI and own the media, theres no way the AI can compete against you. the AI is there to be a competitorand nobody did start in this world with knowing all before anyone else, you want market share, fight for it

and what does it hinder you to sell a product invented and produced by AI, as your own until you invented it just buy it relabel and link that to your sales units, advertise for free with your media and you still got your headstart